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 9/15/11 7:39 PM |
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SteveR wrote:
I believe there are members in both Protestantism and the RCC that practice that.
What is your point? That there is hope for any lover of Scriptural truth who comes out of Rome Ecclesiastic and Civil and follows the teaching of the word of God. It is easy to spot a papist because they always and only emphasize the second table of the law. They have no other argument. They think they do it based faith 'plus' good works, when in reality they do it in slavish fear. Perfect love cast out fear; fear has to do with punishment. If the Son sets you free SteveR you can't stay in Rome. Before I fled Rome 31 years ago, when first converted I thought maybe I was the only one who didn't really know the Lord in my local assembly, so I did plead with the Lord to direct my steps and He has been most faithful even though I naively thought that if you weren't a Romanist you were a Protestant. Little did I know, don't let denominational-ism fool you. I studied my Bible and world history, that's when the fog clears. Try it. |
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| 9/15/11 6:35 PM |
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SteveR wrote:
Quite a choice...
Protestants can continue in their divisions, studying Scripture, and wondering where they might have error
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They can join the RCC and just embrace being in error What about the choice of taking God at his Word Phil. 1:2-7 "Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. I thank my God upon every remembrance of you, Always in every prayer of mine for you all making request with joy, For your fellowship in the gospel from the first day until now; Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ: Even as it is meet for me to think this of you all, because I have you in my heart; inasmuch as both in my bonds, and in the defense and confirmation of the gospel, ye all are partakers of my grace." All the saints are still partakers of that same grace. That hasn't changed and the battle for the Crown rights of Jesus Christ who is now exalted at the Father's right hand are still being contended for by everyone in their place, calling and station who loves the Lord Jesus Christ in sincerity. |
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| 9/15/11 5:01 PM |
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jpw wrote:
All that teaching we are just an accidental blob of chemical reactions will do is bring on more illness, loss of IQ, etc. jpw, I agree with what I quoted here. I agree we are to be involved in the preservation of our own and our brothers health. However there are factors you are omitting that are equally as necessary a part of the picture. Man by Adamic nature or original sin has "forfeited his right to all the outward blessings of this life, and deserves to be wholly deprived of them by God, and have them cursed to us in the use of them, because neither these temporal blessings, nor our efforts to attain then by our merit or industry will sustain us in this life." WCF A to Q 194Thus we pray "Give us this day our daily bread." When in response to this petition God grants us the ability to procure them, we are then instructed to sanctify them to our use by the word of God and prayer. I hear none stressing this? What you suggest is good and increasingly necessary but will you burden those who God has not burdened with guilt, if they are not for some reason in God's providence unable. i.e. weather, blight, or insufficient funds for pricey heritage seeds & plants that are not tampered with or other responsibilities of a greater u |
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| 9/15/11 4:33 PM |
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CV wrote:
Sanctified! Not "unclean", is what Paul calls the unbelieving spouse - which decimates the "fornication" clause. CV, My Mennonite neighbors who believe Arminian heresy like your preacher also state; that if the husband or wife lives as the Scripture commands, then their spouse will be saved it is promised. That is not what the Scripture says. 1 Cor. 7:16 For what knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife? One spouses good works or faith does not sanctify in the same way as saving faith which is a gifted grace from a Sovereign God. They are sanctified in the same sense as the children are holy, because of the influence of the believing party is the power of the gospel. It is not a guarantee of their conversion but of the gracious opportunity given them by their exposure to the true religion of the Christian. I fail to see what this has to do with the fornication clause. Are you saying that marrying an obedient 'yet in progress' sanctified Christian means the spouse will never again be guilty of idolatry? |
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| 9/13/11 6:44 PM |
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scott mcmahan wrote:
Why bad economic news? No one ever bought a newspaper that said "everything is fine, nothing happening today" Bad news sells, so the media focuses on bad news.
Also why you never see an article like "faithful pastor continues exposition of Bible" - the only religious news is some gonzo nut job burning books or something. It's "biased" but not politically, Thanks for your answer. I would hope that is not true of the Christian in light of Phil.4:1-8. We only have available what the media gives and if we want to know what is true in the nation and world it isn't easy.
I read recently that it was heresy, scandal and persecution that are the causes of apostasy. So I assume your faithful minister is faithful in doctrine which to me means, what the Bible teaches us about God who God is and what He requires of us. Yet many falsely assume doctrine is something other than what the Scripture teaches and then say I don't follow the teaching of men, I follow the Bible that says God gave pastors &teachers. A faithful minister should be teaching the doctrine of the Bible. On this we'd agree. Do you believe there are degrees of faithfulness since truth is always the same? |
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| 9/13/11 6:07 PM |
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Lurker wrote:
..surely there are circumstances which God's law permits divorce and re-marriage amongst His people. I believe that if a divorce is lawful then remarriage is also lawful. It is each individual marriage's particulars that complicate. The WCF would says yes for the innocent party. As I mentioned I spent a portion of my day considering the innocence of any man in ol' Adam. Even those in Christ still sin, not by desire but by infirmity.
I have concluded that until the Church is more settled we will be in this present waste-land regarding government this heart-wrenching issue and many other such issues of sin against God and man will be unresolved. A true Child of Abraham looks at the moral perfection of the law and sees Christ alone as its fulfillment. There is much sin in our midst unresolved and the Spirit is grieved or worse. |
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| 9/13/11 5:40 PM |
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Lockerman wrote:
Good Web Site RP.
Yes, I believe my job is Godly. I make locks. Got my Masters from Yale.
Just kidding of course. About the locks or Yale? Or both?
I have my theory as to what you do, but I could be wrong so I'll not spectulate?
[To me the word godly means a keeper of the first table of the law with ones whole heart (mind, will and affections) because relying on Christ's perfect righteousness to satisfy God's perfect holiness and the Spirit's work to secure our obedience in mortifying the deeds of the flesh, in this case as regards the worship of God.] If your job enables you not to compromise here then I'd agree with you, that you have a God glorifying job. We might differ on what I wrote between the brackets? |
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| 9/13/11 3:24 PM |
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What is unsettled is the state of the Church, not the doctrines of Scripture. I believe we are at present in the times referred to in 2 Thes.2:3-4 "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.I don't assume the position of an elder, I don't believe I can judge my own or anyone else's case for that reason. Two or three are always needed for a viable witness. I do acknowledge, as did Rutherford "When the greatest part of the Church maketh defection from the Truth, the lesser part remaining sound, the greatest part of the Church is The Church of Separatists, though the maniest and greatest part in the actual exercise of Discipline be the Church; yet in the case of right discipline, the best though fewest be the Church; for truth is like life that retireth from the maniest members unto the heart and there remaineth in its fountain in case of danger."
It has been a dangerous time for the remnant for over 1200 years. |
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| 9/13/11 1:01 PM |
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Neil wrote:
Muses were the Greek goddesses of literature & the arts, so are you sure God wants us to "muse?" Isa.1:18 Yes Neil, the gospel prophet is always comforting and instructive. Now since I will give an account to God for every idle word, I looked up muse and amused in Webster's 1828. I use muse as a verb most often. What you refer to is muse the noun and not the verb. However meditate would be a word less likely to cause any to stumble. Thanks
I recently heard a sermon on SA that rightly said, we ought first begin the process of gaining knowledge, in and through the Scripture, interpreting all our data by what the Word teaches. What we conclude drives the will, & the will then drives the affections. I 'meditated' on this just this morning after a conversation with my son; as it relates to original sin as mentioned in Psalm 51 and actual sin, as in James 1:12-17. I wasn't thinking of the economy but it applies here too. Curious, why do you think the media wants to deceive the people of this nation Scott? Rufus, in this context I concluded Satan wants us deceived with the wrong kind of amusement.
Randolph Websters 1828 has 7 definitions for entertain the verb. |
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| 9/11/11 2:16 PM |
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Presby with the facts wrote:
But don't forget John that Baptists have got "Baptizw" all wrong in translation and administration.
WCF. 28/3. Dipping of the person into the water is not necessary; but baptism is rightly administered by pouring or sprinkling water upon the person.a
a. Mark 7:4; Acts 2:41; 16:33; Heb 9:10, 19-22.
WCF 28/4. Not only those that do actually profess faith in and obedience unto Christ,a but also the infants of one or both believing parents are to be baptized.b
a. Mark 16:15-16; Acts 8:37-38. • b. Gen 17:7, 9 with Gal 3:9, 14 and Col 2:11-12 and Acts 2:38-39 and Rom 4:11-12; Mat 28:19; Mark 10:13-16; Luke 18:15; 1 Cor 7:14 I thank God for using you to deliver a promise He gave me in Ezekiel last evening. I was not smiling, my heart is deeply grieved. Your contribution gratefully received by me, has caused me to bow my head and worship so true and faithful a Savior.
Sincere thanks |
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| 9/11/11 1:19 PM |
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To the best of my knowledge, the Westminster Assembly of Divines consisted of the Scottish Commissioners together with English Puritans and many of the other professing Christian bodies in England. These Divines, whose history and works are available to anyone interested, were in no way void of understanding the difference between legalism and the spirit of the law. Anyone without a bias, can discern for themselves by reading their works. Many had a very commendable understanding of the law and the gospel which can be verified from their contribution to posterity left to us in print. One such Divine, William Gouge has given an excellent contribution in 'Domestical Duties', where he addresses these matters of which we speak here. I have for sometime now thought it 'healthful' to read to senior citizens this teacher in print, to lead them to Christ as they look back at their role in family, which many if not all do. Gospel health leads to physical health yet if not of body, due to the infirmity of age, then of soul and spirit: God's perfect standard and His perfect offer of the Lord our Righteousness who alone perfectly fulfilled it, if embraced by faith is good for all. The law makes poor sinners thankful. They see how far short they have come and how adequate Christ is! |
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| 9/11/11 11:45 AM |
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Chapter XXIV 1646
Of Marriage and DivorceI. Marriage is to be between one man and one woman: neither is it lawful for any man to have more than one wife, nor for any woman to have more than one husband, at the same time.
II. Marriage was ordained for the mutual help of husband and wife,[2] for the increase of mankind with a legitimate issue, and of the Church with an holy seed;[3] and for preventing of uncleanness.[4]
III. It is lawful for all sorts of people to marry, who are able with judgment to give their consent.[5] Yet it is the duty of Christians to marry only in the Lord.[6] And therefore such as profess the true reformed religion should not marry with infidels, papists, or other idolaters: neither should such as are godly be unequally yoked, by marrying with such as are notoriously wicked in their life, or maintain damnable heresies.[7]
V. Adultery or fornication committed after a contract, being detected before marriage, gives just occasion to the innocent party to dissolve that contract.[11] In the case of adultery after marriage, it is lawful for the innocent party to sue out a divorce and, after the divorce,[12] to marry another, as if the offending party were dead.[13]
no room for IV. or VI.
http://www.reformed.org/documents/wcf_with_proofs/ |
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| 9/11/11 9:54 AM |
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CV wrote:
No other issue impacts lives as that surrounding marriage. It is crucial to know what Jesus said about this. I want to thank you CV for your sober minded consideration of marriage and the family for it has greatly encouraged me. It is an issue that greatly reflects the glory of God and affects the good of His Church on earth. We pray in the Lord's pattern given to us; Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. As Neil pointed out the majority of Christians do not read the original manuscripts of the original languages. As Ephesians 4 points out that when Christ ascended his Mediatorial throne on high he gave gifts to men and equipt them for the work of the ministry. That is the truth. If things are not as they should be at this time the prophetic Scriptures explain why.
Because this is a subject that has weighed heavily on my mind, I will share my conclusions for your due consideration. The WCF seems to have exegeted this correctly in chap.24 Of Marriage and Divorce which I believe you will find interesting. Presbyterianism is not a denomination, it is a form of government consisting of the elders of any given city, who make these types of judgments based on the original texts. Government is broken. 1Peter 5 Pra |
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| 9/6/11 7:17 PM |
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Why is it that everyone is so much concerned about this kind of second table covenant violation? Possibly because it is an offense against a Holy God and a great harm done to our neighbor? But I wonder, on a regular basis, Why no one fears the first table violation of a broken Covenant with Almighty God by the breach of the Solemn League and Covenant unleashing a heavy load of guilt upon the British Empire and surrendering to Romanist institutions what rightly belongs to our espoused Divine Husband, the Lord Jesus Christ?Rev. 17:1-4 "And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication. So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:"... |
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| 9/6/11 5:14 PM |
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Isaiah 8:11-13 "For the LORD spake thus to me with a strong hand, and instructed me that I should not walk in the way of this people, saying, Say ye not, A confederacy, to all them to whom this people shall say, A confederacy; neither fear ye their fear, nor be afraid. Sanctify the LORD of hosts himself; and let him be your fear, and let him be your dread." Should Protestants confederate with the Romanists in either institution for a worthy cause? Is it true that if the cause is righteous then a confederation with God's enemies is okay?
2 Chron.19:1-3 "And Jehoshaphat the king of Judah returned to his house in peace to Jerusalem. And Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him, and said to king Jehoshaphat, Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the LORD? therefore is wrath upon thee from before the LORD." Psalm 37:39-40 "But the salvation of the righteous is of the LORD: he is their strength in the time of trouble. And the LORD shall help them, and deliver them: he shall deliver them from the wicked, and save them, because they trust in him." |
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| 9/6/11 4:22 PM |
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Postine wrote:
Words of Jesus.
Matt 5:31-32 These verses are taken from the Sermon on the Mount and it would appear that the Lord is teaching the spirituality of the law,Romans 7:14 "For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin." The Lord also addresses specific violations, verses 27-30. It seems clear from this isolated text that the man is not given permission to put away his wife except for the cause of fornication, other wise he is causing her to commit adultery. Why is that the case? Why does this unlawful putting away cause her to commit adultery? It would also seem to be forbidden that any would marry this woman put away unlawfully verse 31 or the 'unfaithful woman' verse 32 but these are different women. If the husband is then lawfully divorced in the case of putting away the guilty party according to this text; is he then free to marry another, in the Lord? It would be helpful if you support your argument from the Scripture. |
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