One only argues out of a stoney heart from Scripture; Ezek. 11:18-20 And they shall come thither, and they shall take away all the detestable things thereof and all the abominations thereof from thence. And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh: That they may walk in my statutes, and keep mine ordinances, and do them: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God."
This is dependent on a work of God and it is covenant language. 'They shall be my people, and I will be their God.' The detestable things and abominations shows that they broke covenant with God, then the rest follows see Romans 1. A wrong eschatology is a wrong soteriology and that is also involved in the errors I mentioned previously. It all starts in Genesis and continues throughout the whole of Scripture fulfilling promises. Covenants define the parameters for stronger bonds of dependence on Chr

I ask: Has that changed? Are all men in Christ & reconciled to God? Do all have hearts of flesh with the law written upon them? Are reconciled men always sinless? Are men who are commanded to walk in the Spirit not fulfill the lusts of the flesh always doing so? Who should not be guilty of fornication or adultery? Back-sliders in heart have hardened consciences. In a state of back sliding can one be sure of their calling and election? If they are commanded to search out their salvation with fear and trembling, then how can they do so continuing in sin? If the Holy Spirit withdraws his grace even in part, then they will not reverence God as a Father or tremble at His rod that comes to a Christian by conviction from the Word & Spirit.

I was thinking of the three different worlds used 'heart' 'soul' and 'might'. It was an interesting word study in Strongs. It would seem that heart in the Hebrew is the mind or understanding in this context. Also Mark 12:28-31 "And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these."

As Psalm 2 states: "4He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the LORD shall have them in derision. 5Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure. 6Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. 7I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. 8Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. 9Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel. 10Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth. 11Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling. 12Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him."

For clarification: CV, you use the initials HS; you have been known to use many abbreviations. A Christian might assume one thing, in context, as a Trinitarian. However in your post of 9/28/11 10:11 AM you use Ha Shem. "n.- in Judaism a periphrastic way of referring to God in contexts other than prayer, scriptural reading, etc because the name itself is considered too holy for such use. [from Hebrew, literally: The Name] Is that the meaning of HS to you? You speak strangely of that name, even for a Jew. Lev.24:11 For you spoke of who they believe to be the creator God in another post in irreverent terminology like unto a sinful man. Even a Christian would not attribute a sinful human trait to God. Explain, if you will?

One thing that Jim's pastor's dad said that I thought was sound Scriptural advice was that he didn't want to see him at home again once married, unless the two (now one) were together. That seemed like wisdom to me. If either party of the new couple had difficulty (as all sinners do) with the other offending party, that couldn't be resolved together; then they went together to a second and third party who loved them both to keep working on it. Consistent with Matthew 18 and a God fearing family order, to head off the miseries of sin gaining the day, by faith, love and hope in action.

What I read last evening, had nothing to do with marriage per say. It was about the conspiracy behind Mahomet's writing of his Alfurca and Alcoran. Lurker stated; "from whatever source only you and God knows" Mahomet's source according to History was Sergins a Nestorian Monk, Joannes Antiochenus an Arian, and some Jews.
I found something on-line that had potential for good and evil. The times I believe the prophetic Scriptures teach, demand caution. I attempted to express by fears and look for some answers but I was never answered. Some of what I was concerned about is found in every human heart since the fall. The doctrine of original sin is at issue here.

The Church in both the British Isles and USA once taught this; even after a covenant breaking throne broke Covenant with Almihgty God. This is the heart of the issue. It needs to be addressed before the 7th Commandment violations, it is a broken Covenant with God.

Have to go for now.