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 11/16/11 11:13 AM |
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jpw wrote:
give to Caesasr what he thinks is his, ... perhaps the older generation will listen when its their own organs put on the auction block. That would seem as if it should be so, but in the third watch Tues. AM I was reading Amos 4 and after the sword, pestilence and famine the nation and majority of it people were not moved to repentance causing the prophet to repeat v.8b"yet have ye not returned unto me, saith the LORD." So concluding he now says: v. 11-13 "I have overthrown some of you, as God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah, and ye were as a firebrand plucked out of the burning: yet have ye not returned unto me, saith the LORD. Therefore thus will I do unto thee, O Israel: and because I will do this unto thee, prepare to meet thy God, O Israel.
For, lo, he that formeth the mountains, and createth the wind, and declareth unto man what is his thought, that maketh the morning darkness, and treadeth upon the high places of the earth, The LORD, The God of hosts, is his name." The Most fearful army to encounter, if not found accepted in the Beloved. |
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| 11/16/11 9:12 AM |
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Presby wrote:
UNTRUE!
Again this is more Roman Arminian works based religious theory.
You appear to be suggesting that we justify ourself - BEFORE the Holy Spirit enters into our heart. That is complete error. Presby, I am trying to understand what you are and are not saying, but find it quite difficult with all the unhelpful accusations that go beyond what is written in your own words.For my own understanding, It might be helpful if I quote from Spencer's
book and then have you tell me if you do or do not agree. "The Baptism of the Holy Spirit is not to be confused with Regeneration. Although both take place almost instantaneously, and involve only the elect, still they are not identical. Regeneration is the act of God whereby he "quickens" (brings to life) a dead human spirit. The baptism of the Holy Spirit is the act of God which unites a regenerated believer with the true Church (called the body of Christ) Therefore Paul says: "By one Spirit we are all baptized into one Body." 1 Cor.12:13. FYI, I do not abide by Lurker's interpretation of the two Covenants. |
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| 11/14/11 5:05 PM |
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John UK wrote:
Really? You see we do have the office of magistrate, which is why I was confused. But you reckon it is "from the top down", thus...Is that how you reckon it? Well that depends what you list is missing historical pieces for me. Historically there were also Bishops that had their hands in the pie, so to speak, mixing ministry with magistracy in England were the prelates. Scotland fought against such mix, thus Jenny G's pitched stool. The Church of Rome has also put their hands in the pie, in a similar manner in days past? Not a good mix and not separation of Church and State, but gives greater power to the sword, was the opinion of Charles II. |
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| 11/14/11 4:13 PM |
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John UK wrote:
RP, I wonder if you could explain what you mean by "magistrate"? It's a word you use quite a bit, and always it confuses me what you mean by it. Those that have been given the power of the sword from the top down, with their various kinds of accountability accordingly. John Knox had a very interesting debate with one such of his day that was the best definition of Romans 13, I ever observed practically. |
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| 11/14/11 3:23 PM |
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Jim Lincoln wrote:
... somewhat sad, now that you have done the right thing and retired from politics, but can a pastor ever retire from that work? I agree that you cannot mix Magistracy with Ministry. I believe a Christian can be either or, if equipped for it and called to it, by God and his people. But in times like these both offices are very dangerous positions for the people of God. I do not believe a Christian in the UK can be a Magistrate for conscience sake, but when God acts, they will be able to, once again. I also don't believe they can be part of a 'denomination' in the UK since they are bound by oath to unity. The Magistrate is bound to uphold the true reformed (from Rome) religion and the Ministry bound to preach what has already been attained by brave contenders for the truth. |
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| 11/14/11 3:07 PM |
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Jim Lincoln wrote:
Ah, RP let me be some help:
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The historicist (present) sees much of the current church age as equal to the tribulation period. Thus, prophecy has been and will be fulfilled during the current church age. That is what I believe, sort of. I believe the great apostasy began with the giving over of the saints of the most high into the hands of the beast. Historicists have listed some of the historical post canonical events that seem most likely to fulfill that Scripture. None that I know commit to exact dates but believed that the generation who would see the end of the apostasy would better understand the things that were yet future to them. On the Lord's Day I read a sermon on the Final Judgment by an RP minister in the USA 1924, before many years of silence. It was very convicting and went with my study of the WCF LC on the Third Commandment. It was helpful to bring me to a filial fear of God, we offend Jews by our irreverence, as Christians.
Neil, thanks for what you explained. I read WCF 19 and most of your article, I bookmarked it, because the wood stove almost went out and I forgot the yeast in the bread. I did just rescue all, but better be careful or I'll loose computer privileges again. |
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| 11/14/11 2:12 PM |
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Neil wrote:
The main difference between Preterists & Futurists is which journalists they consult: Preterists like those of the 1st century, Futurists like today's.  Lost to me, since I don't know what a Futurist is exactly. I believe much of the prophetic Scripture has been fulfilled but not all. Are you a Preterist then? I always thought you were a theonomist, Neil, the things you say often remind me of the few of them that I have read. But I have to admit I had little to work with to clearly define what you believe exactly, your first name didn't do it for me. |
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| 11/14/11 11:51 AM |
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John UK wrote:
RP, is [URL=http://www.seminaryathome.com/]]]this [/URL] the Duane E Spencer you mentioned? I've just downloaded one of the messages to listen to on the coming Lord's Day. It would appear so. D.E. Spencer lived 1920-1981. The book I have I believe to be out of print. I have never seen his picture. But like Pink he wrote a magazine called Word Keys from the original languages. He taught specific doctrines in an easy to understand manner. He was born in Kansas, served in the Army AirForce 4 years, he had a distinguished musical career after his discharge, first as a bass soloist then as music minister in a Presbyterian 'so called' denomination. He entered the ministry in the Methodist Church which his studies caused him to leave for an Evangelical Presbyterian Church (?). He suffered a massive coronary in 1975 but continued his writing/teaching until his death in 1981. The theonomists/reconstructionists endorse him usually. I believe that the Lord by His Spirit is our teacher ultimately. I will hear His voice and be taught by Him and will not follow a stranger. God is not limited as to the means he uses. In my life he has varied his teachers from a number of sources.
Many who have been very helpful I'd be partially separated |
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| 11/14/11 11:30 AM |
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Neil wrote:
Disagree. The subject is the whether gay couples are entitled to the same benefits as heterosexuals. Now I do believe there should be no pretax employee benefits at all (which would preempt the marriage issue somewhat), but this is beyond the pale too. Though I tried to understand this dialog, I'm not sure I did. What I quoted from Neil was something I heard discussed in a Medical Ethics Lecture here on SA from Chalcedon Presbyterian Church and the gentlemen-physicians were explaining the change in direction from the former pretax medical employee benefits to what would soon under Obamacare be better for employers. That is; to be fined for not offering insurance would be more financially advantageous then to pay it for all employees. Thus Medicare to the rescue. What I thought I understood him to say would clearly make this issue not so much centered on economics but rather Humanism verses Christianity under a sheep skin. |
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| 11/14/11 10:46 AM |
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Lurker wrote:
Perhaps. It depends on where indwelling of the HS is inserted which is the present point of contention. Why it is not part of an order of salvation is beyond me. Insert this most important part of God's work in drawing His heritage to the Son and we'll see. "The Baptism of the Holy Spirit is not to be confused with the indwelling of the Spirit of God. These two doctrines might be said to move in opposite directions. The Baptism of the Holy Spirit places the believer "in Christ" while the indwelling of the Holy Spirit places Christ in the believer. The contrast is expressed by our Lord when he said:"I in you (indwelling) and you in Me." (cf.Romans 5:5;8:11; Gal.4:6). Speaking of the indwelling Holy Spirit, Paul says,"your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is within you." (1 Cor.6:19)" from Holy Baptism Word Keys that that unlock the Covenant. by Duane E.Spencer I have been helped by Mr. Spencer in the distant past. As a former Papist/Humanist mix, prior to my conversion to Christ, I fled the paedo-baptist position and anything else that reminded me of Rome Ecclesiastic.Still a babe in Christ the Lord gave me a child-like love of the OT. It is a good starting place for the ignorant and I saw the Lord Jesus in it everywhere |
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| 11/14/11 9:08 AM |
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Mike wrote:
Acts 2:38 is made even more clear by Acts 2:37-... Doesn't that square with election, predestination, gospel call, inward call, regeneration, repentance and faith, justification, sanctification, and glorification? What I appreciate about a teacher anointed of God and recognized as such by the people of God, is utterance. I find this heart breaking. No man can say they 'know' what Presbyterians think (unless he is Divine). We all make judgments based on what we ourselves think, that may or may not agree with revealed truth. Clearly, Independents and Presbyterians differ on many things; they do with each other, in their respective groups.
I found this helpful in my studies. "Since there is much confusion where the manifold works of the Holy Spirit are concerned, it is best to begin with what the Baptism of the Holy Spirit is not." He then states: "We shall seek to do this by contrasting Real Baptism (That which is accomplished by God the Holy Spirit) with other works of God related to the salvation of the elect, as well as with ritual baptisms conducted by men." Spencer He states in some detail(Scriptural)it it not the same as regeneration, indwelling, the first resurrection, anointing, filling, ritual baptism or speaking in |
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| 11/11/11 7:05 PM |
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I thought it was election, predestination, gospel call, inward call, regeneration, conversion-repentance and faith, justification, sanctification verses
outward call, faith/election, repentance, regeneration, justification,perseverence, glorification
or Doctrines of Grace
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Arminianism? |
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| 11/11/11 4:18 PM |
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Ebed Melek wrote:
Ever wondered why America's legal system is in such a sorry litigation obsessed ...
Only compensatory damages are appropriate.
It is the role of the King (and lame modern impersonations thereof) to punish the evildoer on behalf of the nation - in a criminal trial. Well, king Ehud interesting moniker. A lawful king would be in subjection to David's son and David's Lord. He would not be an Erastian king, he would have God's house in order a true gospel ministry and of course he and his privy counsel would rule under God's Law as Creator of all men and Redeemer of His heritage the Church/Kirk, seperate institutions. We are not even close to any such thing until God acts. |
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| 11/11/11 2:38 PM |
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Metrical wrote:
Do you think so? I of course can't speak for Matrix but my answer would be even if I could read Greek and Hebrew I would by the unction of the Holy Spirit still only understand what was necessary for my salvation but for the unity I desire with other members of Christ visible, I would require either an annointed teacher or the unction of the Spirit through the means of our most reliable translation, in our mother tongue. |
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